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Paidia, it’s still early days to be talking about Limnios. Last season he was a bench player and got minutes here and there off the bench. Let him lock down a starting 11 place for a whole season and then we’ll see. Having said that he played a very solid 90 minutes last week against Basel, but he has a long way to go before I’d consider him for the NT personally.

I agree with this. While I agree that investment in a product should will lead to both a better product and more revenue, what the government is doing is not investment. This is a move to gain control of the league, while the individual teams will continue to do what they always have. This cycle is not going to end here; we'll be having this same conversation next year, the next, and the next after that. This might change if accountability is restored and additional outside pressure/forces come in. Such as, opening up club ownership to outside investors. Wasn't a group from Spain interested in one of those Asteras/Atromitos teams a while back? Get some professionals in there, stop with the crooks who already have their hands in every pie. Also, I have seen absolutely no progress in regards to security at these stadiums. If Savvidis wants to show himself as something better than his peers, then he can make Toumba the safest stadium in Greece. Any monkey who's watched a sporting event outside of the Balkans could figure this out. Instead, we get radio silence and then fines every match day.

The corrupt government that is running a bankrupt country came out to bail out 7 teams without TV contract by giving them 14.5 mil in tax payers money through the state broadcaster ERT. This move basically prevents the 7 teams from boycotting the Superleague and pretty much guarantees the start of the season as scheduled on August 25. The 7 teams will divide the 14.5 mil gift as follows: Panathinaikos - 4.2 mil Aris - 2.0 mil Atromitos - 1.9 mil Xanthi - 1.65 mil Panaitolikos - 1.65 mil Lamia - 1.45 mil Apollon - 1.45 mil ERT will show the home games for the above teams. The deal with ERT is for two seasons.

Not any time soon my friend, the fur industry is not doing well. Megas Alexandros Kallitheas will be playing in the 3rd division this year.

PAS cheapest are EUR 100 for adults (between 16-65 and not unemployed): https://pasgiannina.gr/anakoinwseis/season-tickets-2018-2019/

@Rockafeller Skank So not only are you the only one that thinks Tziolis belongs on this team you now think Laz doesn't belong on the team and his career is over?? Are you series? Laz is may be playing his best soccer of his career and can still impact a game.. Laz will need to be a big part of the NT going forward as he can be a difference maker for us.. I understand you're concerned with "AGE" but as long as the guy can perform and play who cares about his age.. I totally disagree with you and i actually wish Skibbe would have brought Laz up way sooner and played him more so he can build some chemistry with the NT..

comparison of Lazaros with Ronaldo with their only common aspect the fact that they ve both gotten old. Am I supposed to take your opinions seriously guys? Lazaros has still high chances of missing the whole season. I want Fetfatzidis in his place. Undoubtedly no Mantalos, but neither Laz. His circle as a key piece is over , and the truth i, he never was for the NT. I'd rather start Limnios and if Fetfa/Gianniotas prove themselves, them.

Now, let's hope all the games will be played with fans and all the games will start and finish!

karagounis was 35?

I like the way you think bro

Why is so much emphasis being put on age? These tournaments come few and far in between. If there’s a player who’s 55 and can help then you put him in. If he’s 12 and he can help you put him in. National teams shouldn’t be developing players for the future. That’s the clubs job. National teams should take their best 22 and field the best team they can every game.

Good player, but he can eat a dick as far as Im concerned.

Absolutely man. The CL has the made gap between the haves and the have nots, so vast that it’s ruined the game. Fine, have prize money but the amounts are just f###king ridiculous. I wish it was like the old days where you could only have 3 foriegn players in the team also. Well maybe not so few as 3 but I don’t want it like how it is now either. Maybe if I write a letter to Platini he’ll listen to me ?

I raise your disagree and doubly disagree with your sir! Ha ha ha, on a serious note you’re being a bit brutal on Lazaro. He was hands down, I mean by a fair margin, the best player in the GSL last year. I’ll accept that his age could mean maybe he should not be considered for the NT. But right now, he’s most definitely good enough. I don’t know what happened to him since he returned from Serie A, but it’s like something clicked in his brain and he finally “gets” the game.

George Laz, I always love your lineups. Hopefully Skibbe will read these boards and pay attention! Only two players I would change are Karnezis. I would go Pashalakis or Barkas hands down. Both are in form and Karnezis is not. Also Fortounis, I would not start him right now. I would go definitely Mantalos after his performance vs Gala or Pelkas. Fortounis has to win back his starting spot.

Since when is it obligatory to have a TV-contract to start the season? And why don’t they accept the help? Ah, I know otherwise they can’t complain. Winers. Greece is not the only country having problems finding money. Even AS Roma did not have a sponsor on their shirt till the quarter final of CL against Barca last year. Most of the teams are “sponsored” by the betting-company. No-one is interested or has money. Deal (with it) or shut up and pexe balla. Just start the season and every time they don’t show up: -3 points. Even if two of those teams play eachother. We can not allow to be hostaged by those clubs/the minority. It is also not good for the Greek teams in Europe (that includes Atromitos) and the NT as the Nations League starts early September.

Ο Αστέρας απλά δεν μπορούσε να βάλει γκολ με τίποτα. Έπαιζε ένα ημίχρονο με παίχτη λιγότερο και παρόλα αυτά έιχε 5-6 καθαρές ευκαιρίες για γκολ. Από ανικανότητα του κάθε Ιγκλέσιας που δεν μπορεί να την σπρώξει στο πλεκτό μπροστά στη γραμμή, στα χαμένα τετ α τετ του Δουβίκα και τον ρεφ που έπνιξε 2 πεναλτάρες, ένα χέρι και μια ανατροπή. Κυριολεκτικά κρίμα, αν σκεφτείς πως και στην προηγούμενο έφαγαν γκολ στο 90 φεύγα. Και είχαν και σχετικά ΟΚ κλήρωση με την Νορβηγική Μόλντε στον επόμενο. Ο Ατρόμητος από την άλλη είναι αρκετά limited φέτος, Ντιγκινί-Ουάρντα είναι μεγάλες απώλειες και φάνηκε και στα 2 παιχνίδια που επιθετικά ήταν νωθρός. Τώρα να μην μπορείς να κρατήσεις μισό λεπτό και να το τρως στο 95 από τους ανύπαρκτους είναι ξεφτίλα. Αυτοί θα βγουν και του χρόνου Ευρώπη, όπως και τα επόμενα 2-3 χρόνια θα είναι οι ίδιοι και οι ίδιοι. Το θέμα είναι ότι ο Αστέρας κάνει πάντα καλό σκάουτινγκ σε Αργεντινή-Ισπανία και με λίγο μεγαλύτερο μπάτζετ θα μπορούσε να μπει ομίλους του χρόνου γιατί έχει καλό προπονητή. Ο Ατρόμητος όσες φορές έπαιξε ποτέ δεν έκανε το βήμα παραπάνω, το πολύ να περνάει ένα γύρο και μετά τέλος. Μακάρι να επιστρέψουν γρήγορα Παναθηναϊκός και Άρης.