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Siovas is good but he has to start by getting called up. I still prefer KPap, as his best is better than Siovas' best, but we are definitely rich in quality options for CB with Retsos as our #4, Siovas as a logical #5, and then a solid bunch of decent backs battling for a callup. We will likely see Mavropanos with senior team in the coming months as well.

Bravo re captain Dean, Androutsos Kourbelis & Zeca as opposed to Taxi, Tziol & Samaris/Maniatis. Go with youth and they won't let anyone down. Zeca and Sokrati will point them in the right erection

I've always us to try a 3 at the back system. But it won't happen. If we put Androutsos and Kourbelis or Zeca behind our attacking midfielder it would benefit the midfield instead of having slower midfielders. Boxou could be right about Bouchalakis being slow like Tachtsidis but I don't think he would be that slow. He should have been tested it's friendly. I like the idea of a 3-4-3. I also think that I'd Mitroglou is not playing well for club then Manos if in form should be given a chance. It's also important that we play our most in form players this time around.

J1 baby, Skibbe must Not be comfortable with a slow midfield. Tziol, Taxi and Samaris are not international class, neither has a big engine. Zeca needs two other guys to complement him urgently. Mitro could get faster service as well.

Ah farout I hope not. The more you think of it in that way it will probably happen. If he is a smart guy he would realise why we didn't qualify and what he needs to do change it. But I guess he is stubborn. He is only going to lose his job is he plays Tziolis and Tzavellas. They sabotage the team without them wanting to. Imagine a team like this: Karnezis Lykogiannis Manolas Sokratis Stafylidis Zeca Androutsos Donis Fortounis Fetfatzidis Mitroglou Subs Samaris, Bouchalakis, Barkas, Gianniotis, Karelis, Lazaros, Mantalos, Retsos, Bakakis, Pelkas, Kourbelis, Manos. This should be our team. Androutsos comes in to add energy with Zeca. Fortounis is our best attacking midfielder who looks very good in pre season, fast and technical wingers who can take on defenders and assist Mitroglou. I believe Manos will be in the team if he can score goals this season. Tziolis and Tachtsidis don't need to be in the team. They are too slow and the latter is out of form. Samaris needs to sit out and earn the trust. Lykogiannis can take over Torosidis who are similar in physical attributes. But I'm concerned that Lyko hasn't got a strong weak foot. In any case this would be the ideal line up going into the nation's cup.