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  2. Nilaul

    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    To be fair I think that there could be a significant amount of fans that jumped ship to other teams. I am one of them too. But I just don't watch TV, so there's no viewership. Hopefully, Olympiakos don't abandon watching their own team because they're gonna be butthurt about being 2nd/3rd for the next few years. In an ideal world that would be a solution but since we don't really live in an ideal world, and Nova told everyone to negotiate their own deal (which could backfire for them once teams actually get a hang of it). A fairer redistribution model, where the league would negotiate as one, where smaller teams would get a little bit more money would be great if the league didn't get peanuts already. Being able to negotiate your own deals is a blessing in disguise, these small teams could use the opportunity to talk to a competitor to get a better deal, same with the bigger teams. The world doesn't revolve around Nova, there are alternatives even a separate online streaming deal with Facebook is an option. Of course, it would take some negotiating skills and a can-do-attitude but its doable, and a little bit of thinking outside of the box too, which might be hard for some stuck in the past teams. Currently its like this: Aek (5.7 million) (NOVA) Paok (5.5 million) (NOVA) Olympiakos (5.5 million) (NOVA) Panathinaikos (4.2 million) (ERT) Aris (2 million) (ERT) Atromitos (1.9 million) (ERT) Xanthi (1.65 million) (ERT) Panetolikos (1.65 million) (ERT) Apollon Smyrnis (1.45 million) (ERT) Lamia (1.45 million) (ERT) Missing 6 teams. So if someone wants they can complete the list. Apparently, there's some bonus involved too? Got to feel a little bad for Atromitos, they deserve better. Also I've been wondering if there's actually something stopping from Paok signing some sort of deal with Open TV, in order to pump millions into Paok? It could be away to get around financial fair play. Also all revenue from CL and match transmission would go directly into Paok, there would be no middle man (Nova) trying to profit off them.
  3. PAOTHEGREAT

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    Yes this is a fact. However most fans in Greece that have stopped supporting PAO, have jumped ship to other leagues in Europe. They don't switch teams and support another in the SUPA league. This is the worst era in Greek soccer....so the numbers have declined in a whole for viewership. Basically what I'm saying is....the league is shrinking fast.
  4. Nilaul

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    Not to mention that Just because someone used to Panathinaikos doesn't mean they still are. Supporting a club is not a sentence for life, and fans can jump ship, especially with everything that happened under Alazoufos (I mean the guy made his Panathinaikos fans paint Leoforos for free). Supporting a club is very much like dating a girl, if shizt doesn't go well, you may always dump her for something better. The number of Panathinaikos fans used to be high, but now it is probably lower.
  5. PAOTHEGREAT

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    Absolutely. And the country attracts better players. Now lets hope both PAOK and Olympiakos to make the CL.
  6. Soprano76

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    I suppose that's fair. Although PAOK is my favorite Greek team, I'm not the die hard that most people on this forum would consider themselves. I'm the type that places the health of Greek football overall above all else. Say what you will for past ills, but Olympiakos are one of the few teams in Greece that can be somewhat competitive in Europe. Besides, it helps out PAOK at the end of the day; a better country co-efficient eases the road to the CL group stages.
  7. PAOTHEGREAT

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    Well yes PAOK probably is second by default, because the PAO fans are not interested. That said if large portions of fans from the big 4 disappear....the smaller clubs combined can't come close to filling the void, and that fact has become a huge issue with TV contracts. We started a discussion here on what can be done to increase the viewership again. I for one like the 11 team format each team playing each other 4 times no playoffs. Others here had different opinions and suggestions all good. Now we have been derailed again....why? Keep the discussion open. Lets all come up with different solutions. Why turn this into a s%$#! show.
  8. SydneyPAOK

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    No they didn't. 2009-2010 season you averaged 27k. So because your millions of fans are not interested we should make concessions and pump money towards your club to get the millions back on board? That is actually the job of the club's owner not anyone else. "No big clubs, just PAOK, Atromitos together with PAS" You are delusional. PAOK right here right now is a bigger club than Panathinaikos. They are the 2nd biggest club. They are financially sound with Olympiakos, have the 2nd highest average crowds and 2nd highest social media followers in Greece. That is a fact. Your method of 'millions of pao fans not interested' is quite frankly void.
  9. PAOTHEGREAT

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    In 2010 they averaged 47k
  10. PAOTHEGREAT

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    Not making fun of them....PAO has millions of fans not interested. Who's going to fill the void Atromitos? That's money the league will never see.
  11. pash

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    Yeah but do you know how many tickets they sold in 1973?!
  12. Yiankos

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    In last game Panathinaikos had 2,000 tickets. Not a good timing to make fun of Atromitos or PAS.
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  14. PAOTHEGREAT

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    Very good post. A successful league has their biggest clubs in Europe. By your logic you only want PAOK winning championships in a very weak league. Wow you have very high standards. No big clubs, just PAOK, Atromitos together with PAS and their 200 fans. No CL, NO quality, just winning championships on farmer's fields.
  15. DunfermlineAthleticPAOK

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    Don’t say that, you’ll Get JVC on soon telling you that it’s because two clubs don’t get enough money!
  16. Athens4

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    Not a biggie but it would be cool if everyone put their current location on their profile. I would definitely like to know where people I am interacting with are currently residing.
  17. DunfermlineAthleticPAOK

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    I want oly to be embarrassed at every opertunity and never want them to have any success. I also enjoyed AEK getting 0 points. Although I did support them against Celtic. I never want our rivals to do well. Μόνο ΠΑΟΚ!!!
  18. Athens4

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    You're not wrong but it shouldn't be like this. Olympiakos is the reason (the main one at least) why Greek football is like the way it is.
  19. DunfermlineAthleticPAOK

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    Thanks for clarifying. We (me and JVC) have never seen eye to eye, we just come from different perspectives. He has always had a problem with where I come from though for some reason. @Nilaul from growing up in Athens, how did you come to supporting PAOK? I always find these stories fascinating. Was it a family thing, friends or just a rebellious streak? As much I enjoy gavros losing, I want to win this championship rather than them losing it, if that makes sense? Especially after what happened last year.. the most satisfying thing would be for us to go unbeaten and for Olympiakos and AEK to win every game.
  20. PAOTHEGREAT

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    http://thesportjournal.org/article/the-selling-mechanism-of-the-television-rights-in-greek-professional-soccer/
  21. Soprano76

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    @Nilaul PAOthegreat linked it in his edited comment. I haven't gotten around to reading it yet. From the perspective of someone who wants to see Greek football clubs succeed in Europe, it is probably best that OLY gets the 2nd CL spot given that they will probably do more with that opportunity.
  22. It would not surprise me if the delineation of responsibilities is such that these guys spend nothing on that. Like, is the Super League responsible for anything that happens outside of the Super League? This is not a judgement I'm trying to make, just noting that the EPO is probably the one who should be paying attention to the development of the game in the country. In addition to providing guidance on training, etc etc. Just as the DFB did so after Germany's epic disaster a decade or two ago. For comparison's sake - I believe in the NFL, fines all go towards charitable causes. I *THINK* PAOK does something similar to any fines it collects from its own players, too. But those numbers pale in comparison to what we pay to the league.
  23. Nilaul

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    Ναι φυσικά! Μου έλειψαν η δήλωσις του Σάββα 🤣😂
  24. Yiankos

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    Άρα μπορούμε να γυρίσουμε στο ότι ο Ολυμπιακός παίζει την καλύτερη μπάλα και αξίζει το πρωτάθλημα.
  25. Nilaul

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    Can you send the link to study plz
  26. Yiankos

    PAOK In Other Sports

    Πρώτο δεκάλεπτο τραγικό και άσχημες επιλογές στο τέλος του τετάρτου δεκαλέπτου. Το υπόλοιπο ματς ήμασταν πολύ καλοί. Μπράβο στην ομάδα!
  27. Nilaul

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    I don't think it was @DunfermlineAthleticPaok who constantly tried to derail the thread.
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