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  2. Dean97

    Euro 2020 Qualifying

    I don’t know if I would ever trade the 2004 trophy file. That was done though hard work and determination. We were the ultimate underdogs who played with a correct system and luckily had the right players for it. Our passion and drive got us a trophy with an excellent coach who figured out a way of how to make this team win. He focused on defence and played counter attacking football. We had an excellent leader in Zagorakis, we had the best RB in years in Seitaridis very solid defence and keeper and striker who is known for heading in Charisteas and had Karagounis in the peak of his career. There were some players that missed out still and we still won it like Georgatos, Zikos, Kyrgiakos, Nikolaidis was injured and a few others. Right now though I believe the talent is still their. Especially our youngsters. I believe the issue is not the super league but it does a play a certain role. I believe the passion and determination is not at the same level as it was. It has declined for some reason but it dosent mean our players don’t want to play for their country. In my opinion the players and team are not doing enough. If Greece play like the way Olympiakos did against AC Milan the other day then we should be ranked around the top 20 in the world. I agree with what you said though we have no midfielders or full backs. Torosidis can still be an impact but his time is over at RB. He can still contribute off the bench if need be. We need proper and fast full backs. The best bet would be to play Koutris at LB. Every game he plays he is getting better and better and plays like a real professional. RB there are a lot of ??? to who should play there. For the CDM and CM positions we have a real problem... Zeca and Kourbelis are similar players that like to run down opponents and close down and help shield the defence. That’s what they are good for. They don’t offer anything in going forward. They can’t control the middle and dictate the game. In this modern game you need fast midfielders. Who think and move fast. Galanopoulos can improve the midfield but won’t be our saviour or isn’t the answer we need. We need Vidal type player or a player that we depend on to move the ball effectively and other teams are threatened by. We haven’t got anyone like that now. Also what do we do when Mitroglou is our?!? In my opinion we need a good coach who knows all these things and executes a plan of to turn this team into a respectable and competitive team again! At least we won a trophy so we can look back on and work towards that kind of glory again which has given us a belief for future generations to carry this glory again. The trophies matters more than how you play. At the end of the day a football team plays for a winning result!!
  3. Ellada2004

    Euro 2020 Qualifying

    England aside from there rigged win and last finals appearance in 1966 have done squat for the so called "home" of football. They are nothing. Greece have a Euro trophy and I doubt they will ever play in a Euro finals or another World Cup final!
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  5. ausgreek

    Euro 2020 Qualifying

    We have rising star. Alefantos!!
  6. Συγχαρητήρια και πάλι στον αντίπαλο. Να δούμε πότε θα δώσουμε συγχαρητήρια στους δικούς μας. Παιδαριώδη λάθη, κάκιστη άμυνα, κι αν μιλήσουμε και πάλι για αδικίες μας διαφεύγει και πάλι η ουσία της κατάστασης. Πως είμαστε τραγικοί. Πρώτα στο τεχνικό κομμάτι.
  7. Soprano76

    PAE PAOK General News

    Good to see. Hopefully PAOK can provide some good local players both for the senior team and NT in years to come. Especially if Nea Toumba becomes a reality...
  8. Yiankos

    PAOK in Europe 2018-2019

    Olympiakos won a team who's coach is OFI's former coach and this year they won't make it even to Europe. So, no biggie there. When PAOK was beating Udinese, they were at the top of the standing. Of course congrats to them. But I am not going to attack my team because of what happened. Come on. We have better things to do. And those yes, were last's year transfers and mediocre performance in most of this years' games. But hey, are we going to use the arguments of those who have been united so PAOK doesn't win the championship again? They stole us last's year title. And we left with what? Good football? So what? Do you want to think Olympiakos is Barcelona? Do you want to think their 10 points in the stoppage time is their royal mentality? Do you want to consider PAOK lucky and Olympiakos unlucky? Do whatever you want. I, as a fan of this team, I feel this is the moment that the team needs all the support they can have. To maintain the +8. Our enemies know that now is the moment to attack full force and cause as much damage as they can. I cannot let that happen. Στήριξη στην ομάδα. Στήριξη στον Λουτσέσκου, στον Μάτος, στον Πέλκα και σε όποιον is underperforming. Όλους τρέλα σας πουλάμε ρε γατάκια! Ναι, ντρέπομαι για τις 5 ήττες στα 6 ματς στο Ουέφα. Αυτό δεν είναι ΠΑΟΚ. Αλλά ΠΑΟΚ πρωταθλητής 2018-2019. Όλα τα υπόλοιπα δεν έχουν σημασία.
  9. Yiankos

    PAE PAOK General News

    It was stupid that they both started against BATE. At least it proved to be.
  10. pash

    PAE PAOK General News

    Vieirinha is out for 3 weeks, Pelkas is out for 10 days. Hopefully they won't rush Andre back again; Tosca is more than capable of a replacement there. Biseswar should go back to getting a run in, thankfully.
  11. PAOTHEGREAT

    Euro 2020 Qualifying

    Are you in Canada? I'm born in Canada and thank my dad every day for making the decision to make the move over. That said we don't play soccer over here....Hockey! Lol. Now you brought up England....I would trade the 2004 trophy, and in return bring over English soccer to Greece. Have you seen the SUPA league lately? How do we expect success on the National level, when our soccer is at a division 2 pace and quality? IMO it all starts at the grass roots. So I'm predicting a 3rd finish at best, 5 points behind Bosnia. At the end of the day Ellada 2004, Greece has lost everything they built from the late 1990s and into the 2000s, on all levels from league play up to the NT level. Let's look at our peak roster in 2004....almost all the players had years of experience playing as starters on teams that competed in Europe, CL and Europa. So tell me, how many players currently on this squad have that experience playing against the best, as starters? Maybe 6? Are we going to count Mitro, Fortonis? We have nothing in the midfield, our LB, and RB are terrible. The only world class players we have are playing CB and the goalkeeper....do we have anything else?
  12. pash

    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Klaus got an assist today. Aris down to 10 men with 60 min to go.
  13. New Democracy is holding its Congress and Manfred Weber (candidate for the Presidency of the European Commission) was present there. He voiced the usual bull but there was a moment during which voiced a small (and possibly important) truth. Namely, "If we do not continue united, we are lost. We now account for 7% of the world's population. In a few years, we will be just 3%. The policies of Trump, Putin and Chinese Communists leave no room for individual EU Member States to confront them. "
  14. Bananas

    2018-2019 Europa League

    He’s the same as is Melissanidis. They’re just one step up from gangsters. Unfortunately given the state of football in Greece we are reliant on people like these to fund the clubs to levels “acceptable” to fans. Spoken “Gia olous tous ellines” by Bananas. 🙂
  15. Tzatziki

    2018-2019 Europa League

    Your prez is better?
  16. HellasLEAF

    2018-2019 Europa League

    BRAVO!!! On we go! p.s. what is the meaning of the banner and the masks?
  17. PAOTHEGREAT

    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    Yes was thinking the same thing....Olympiakos was celebrating a big victory in EUROPA!!! This is for Greece! The players were crying??? The fans on the field??? LMFAO.....how far has the standard fallen? A decade ago we had 2 CL teams competing and 3 in Europa playing at a top level....now we only have 1, the mighty Olympiakos!!! Lol In 2 years we will be celebrating division 3 Europe soccer. Great years coming up!
  18. Argy

    Sotiris Ninis ‒ Hapoel Ashkelon

    There is so much to say about Greek's abroad. So many examples and different experiences. Certainly the longer you stay in the Greek league, the better chance you stagnate. KPap and Ninis are different though. Injuries tore apart KPap's career, whereas Ninis' inconsistency and lack of development killed his. Lots of factors come into play for Greeks going abroad. No Greek goes into a foreign club with any kind of pedigree, as I believe that players from the GSL, and Greek footballers, in general, have to work twice as hard to earn the respect and confidence of managers. Also, as I've stated in the past, what's hindering young Greek players in General from getting a timely opportunity abroad is the fact that, for years, the GSL has been just good enough to keep their talent long enough to sell for a higher profit. Whereas, in countries like Croatia, where the league wasn't as competitive, would sell their players younger and cheaper to bigger clubs around Europe. And the results are in front of us.
  19. Bananas

    2018-2019 Europa League

    Gia tis bananas is what he should have said. He couldn’t give two tosses about anything but Olympiakos winning (by hook, crook, or other means). He and others in the club are embarrassing in their behaviour including Theodoridis and Karapapas. I don’t expect much from him but to say “Gia olous tous ellines” seriously fark off. Liar. A scourge on Greek football for many years, and many more to come I’m sure.
  20. Bananas

    Sl–R14: Levadeiakos - PAOK (17-Dec-18, 19:30 EET)

    I wouldn’t expect anything less.
  21. Bananas

    Other Teams/Leagues Discussion

    I don’t understand where this Olympiakos is unlucky meme has come from. They are 10 points behind us and they struggle to score. They have a good foundation and play nice but that doesn’t mean you deserve to win. To win you gotta stick the ball in the net. Now all of a sudden the game against Milan is the norm, and all their other games were aberrations. We’ll see. Until proven otherwise I’m inclined to think the Milan game was the aberration. And the media ha ha. Olympiakara. Best team in Greece. But can’t win a derby. Oh that’s right they’re unlucky. And PAOK is lucky ... for 13 games. The thing with PAOK (and anyone with a brain should see this) is they only need to turn it on for 10-15 minutes and they can score 2 goals. Which is generally what they’ve done. Couple that with a rock solid defence (at least in the GSL), and most teams in the GSL being fairly crappy standard, and there you have why PAOK are where they are this year. Anyway, let’s see what the rest of the season brings. And Marinakis, the donut king, “this is for all Greece”. Fark off donut man. Been raping and pillaging Greece for how long and now he’s all “this is for Greece”. Farking banana.
  22. Bananas

    PAOK in Europe 2018-2019

    The CL qualification run was good. The EL run was very poor given the teams in our group. Lucescu (and I think the team psychologically) have prioritised the league. Even so we should have qualified. Regarding CL we all saw the beat down AEX copped. It would have been the same for us. We saw the vast difference in quality against Chelsea. Boys against men really. We have maybe 3 or 4 players who can kind of compete at that level. The football world has changed a lot in the last 15 years or so and Greece got left behind or rather, didn’t change and adapt.
  23. PAOKSYD

    Sl–R14: Levadeiakos - PAOK (17-Dec-18, 19:30 EET)

    Would love to see PaSH lineup! Want to see akpom with pirjovic and biseswar and warda both need to start!!
  24. Dean97

    Sotiris Ninis ‒ Hapoel Ashkelon

    I definitely agree. I think players like Ninis and K.Papadopoulos were very unlucky in my opinion. Some just not professional enough. Even Tachtsidis who at 21 signed for Roma and showed quality and a lot of promise. Another would be Stafylidis I remember at 17 years old was PAOK best player in that Europe game against Spurs where he got sent off. I think it’s a very good idea Young talented Greek players leave Greece. Players who could have made more of their careers like Torosidis who was very wanted by top clubs at around age 25 but instead stayed at Olympiakos until age 27. All I can think of now is for our young players to get the most experience in a country with good football culture and training programs to get better is too leave right now for eg. Galanopoulos, Androutsos, Nikolaou, Tsimikas, Koulouris and so on should test themselves in leagues where they play constantly and especially in a learning environment. Your not going really far in the GSL. Hopefully players like Fortounis, Pelkas, Kourbelis, and Mantalos don’t start declining because they are all in the same age group and we could agree they played their best football a couple of years ago.
  25. paokarag4

    Current PAOK Roster - Latest Signings

    Speaking of the man, nice little article on him https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/ex-arsenal-youth-star-akpom-revitalising-his-career-in/z0amear0p091k29ky6mkmppp
  26. Pelkas also has been battling the flu for a while. He needs to sit out both so he can think on his poor play, and so he can get some damn rest for once.
  27. paokarag4

    Sl–R14: Levadeiakos - PAOK (17-Dec-18, 19:30 EET)

    Biseswar as a no.10 please. Pelkas is sorely out of form, even in form he doesn't have Biseswar's quality on the ball. El Kaddouri although a smart player, doesn't have the killer final ball/creativity to make things happen. Stop waisting him on the wing and stick him in the middle. These two games are particularly important for Razvan given how we crashed and burned in Europe. Any slip up in this game or vs PAS and the vultures will start circling over Christmas. This is Greece after all
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